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The members of the Yahoo Group: Discordia decided that they were sick of seeing Discordia under the "Parody Religions" section of Yahoo. In retaliation for this heinous oversight, we declared a jake upon them. It was set to go off on 5/23/01, and did... Yahoo was defeated almost 3 weeks later and acquised to our demands (kind of). It is now in Entertainment - Religion - Humor (and, as Hexar sez, "Well, we are funny...") and also in Mythology somewhere. The word parody is not to be found.
Soon, I shall compile the definitive HerStory about the Yahoo Jake in the Book of Yahoos!, but for now, content yourself to read the following letters.
Aside from the following mails, we sent Yahoo barcodes (along with or independant from the mail): .GIF, .MP3-1, .MP3-2, .MP3-4, .MP3-5, .MP3-23. PMC made the GIF and Wonk created the audio files. Save Your Barcodes!
Jakes are listed in the order I recieved them.
| Original Message Sent To Everyone |
| Pope Leighann | Mark D. Carabas | Dingo Kaka |
| Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole | Wonk 1 | Mu-Chao 1 |
| Hexar le Saipe | Counterpope Meat Thing | Lord Falgan's Series |
| Helga | Lord Randominus | Malefactorum |
| Mark | St. Mae | Hicutus Confusus |
| Mu-Chao 2 | Wonk 2 | Mu-Chao 3 |
| Mark D. Carabas 2 | Jenny the Faery | Hicutus Confusus 2 |
| Saint Durrutti | soror xenobia | John Alexander |
| Eralle N. Taget | Vicar Grotto Brain-Pan |
| Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole's Telegram Series |
| Eris Discordia | Pope b 1 & 2 | Mu-Chao 4 |
| Mark Burdett | Eris Discordia 2 |
| Wonk 3 | Wonk 4 | Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole's Final Jake
| Lord Falgan's Last Jake | Hicutus Confusus 2 |
| Yahoo's First Response |
Original Letter, by Maenad and Prince Mu-Chao:
Hear ye, hear ye! All rise! Court is now in session!
Imagine how Jews or Buddhists would react if their religion was listed under
"Humor". They probably wouldn't find it at all "Humor"ous. The Pope would
probably have a fit if Roman Catholicism was termed a "Parody Religion."
Well, Discordianism has BILLIONS of Popes, some of them quite famous. In
fact, every woman and man on or off the face of this planet is a Pope (so
please treat them right). That makes Discordianism the single most popular
religion in the multiverse. While it is true that many people do not choose
to actively participate in the whoreship of Eris, Goddess of Discord and
Confusion and Really Scwewy Stuff, these people are nonetheless members of
the fastest-growing religion in all creation (Discordianism grows at the
exact same rate as the population, you see).
You are also a Pope of Discordia, whether you want to be or not. (One cannot
be excommunicated until one knows the secret passwoid, or finds the Hammer
of Excommunication.) By listind Discordianism under "Parody Religions,"
Yahoo! is telling you that YOU ARE A JOKE! That's not very respectful, now,
is it? Do you think you're a joke? You are if you don't email Yahoo! and
demand that this libelous misrepresentation be corrected IMMEDIATELY!
Discordianism must be removed from the "Parody Religions" and listed with
the "real" ones, or else ALL religions must be listed as "Parody Religions."
You don't have to take much time out of your busy schedule. Just email
Yahoo! If you are in a rush, simply cut and paste the following email
message. It will take you less time than it has taken you to read to this
point. If you are feeling creative and this sort of thing appeals to you,
please feel free to write your own message, the weirder the better.
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!
---- begin snazzy form letter ----
Dear Yahoo!,
I was using your search engine to find tips on how to play Sink, and was
very disappointed, nay, OFFENDED that you have listed Discordianism as a
"Parody Religion." There is no excuse for treating my religion with the
same disrespect that you treat
such ridiculousness as the "Subgenius Foundation" and "The Church of Beavis
Christ".
If Discordianism is a "Parody", then why aren't the alleged faiths of
"Christianity," "Judaism," "Islam," or "Hinduism"? We are not a "cult," and
our members are vast in numbers. Our Oreos are whole. Beware the terrible
force is that is a Bored Discordian, and give in to our demands immediately.
I have emailed all my brothers and sisters in Eris about this and have urged
them to also send you demands to move Discordianism in with the rest of the
"real" religions. I think you may be surprised to learn just how many people
you are injuring with your heinous disregard for our spiritual beliefs.
Thank me for my time.
---- end snazzy form letter ----
Pope Leighann XXX's Letter:
To Whom it May Concern:
I have engaged in the use of Yahoo! over the past seven or eight or so years
as if it were an unholy thing that shall be taken away from me shortly.
Yahoo! has been the portal that I have gathered nearly every piece of
information from that I have recovered from various sites on the web, and I
rather enjoy the set up, especially the humor section.
Until recently I have had no qualms with Yahoo!, nor it me, as far as I could
tell, until I was searching for the Principia Discordia and discovered it
under, of all things, the category "parody religions."
Ladies and gentlemen, "parody religions?!"
I must say that I find it very ungenerous of such a politically correct
corporation such as Yahoo! with its fine upstanding in the Internet
community to not only host such a grievous error but allow it to continue for
what appears to be an obviously lengthy amount of time!
I really hope that this faux pas is merely an undetected error. As a
Discordian, I take my religion seriously, as do the rest of my brothers and
sisters in Eris, just as seriously if not moreso than Christians, Jews,
Muslims, etc. Discordianism has existed for millennia, or at least about
twenty-three years, therefore giving it a solid standing as a real, solid
religion. After all, Scientology, which is based off a book by L. Ron
Hubbard, is not listed among "parody religions"!
I strongly urge the change of Discordianism from "parody religions" to
"Religions and Faith." My belief is shared by my brethren Discordians; we
demand the respect due to us. If Discordianism isn't moved from "parody
religions" to "Religions and Faith," then perhaps the other religions listed
under that category should be moved to "parody religions" as well.
This request is, in the opinions of myself and my fellow Discordians, not a
great hindrance to Yahoo! but a highly important change in status that we
Discordians are rightly due. When our children want to research our beliefs
online, they are misled by the "parody religion" category and soon start
taking our beliefs as, well, hogwash. Other religions don't have to put up
with this persecution, and I know that Yahoo!, as a concerned online
community, wants to be as politically correct and user friendly, as well as
conscientious of its clienteles' feelings, as possible.
Please, for all the little fnords out there, make this change that, while one
small step for you, is one giant leap for Discordians.
May the Sacred Chao bless you in your endeavor to help right this heinous
wrong!
Rev. Mark D. Carabas' Letter:
Dear Sirs, Madams, and whatever else is around
I was recently shocked and dismayed to discover that you have listed
Discordianism as a "parody religion." I am, of course, a Discordian of good
standing (well at least no one kicked me out this month) and am annoyed, nay
furious, that you have treated my religion so shabbily. I mean, come on, a
parody? Of what exactly? We don't take any of the other religions
seriously enough to parody them! You don't have Hubbard's followers under
"parody" and we make a lot more sense then them. Plus we don't have
Travolta. (did you SEE Battlefield Earth?)
Now, normally we don't like
being stuck with the other religions, they're awfully snooty and Eris has
managed to get most of the other gods made at her at some point, but look
who we're stuck with now! The Church of beavis Christ? Christloves.com?
The Church of the quivering otter? I mean, sure they're a lot of fun at
parties, but think of the confusion our new converts might have, they might
think we aren't a real religion. So, I ask that either you move us into the
same category as the rest of the religions, or tell me what the criteria is
to become a "real" religion so that I might show how Discordianism meets it.
Yours in apoplectic fury,
Rev. Mark D. Carabas
Dingo Kaka's letter:
To whom this may (or may not) concern:
It has recently come to my attention that there is a
type of a grave human rights violation occuring all
over the world. The dead are being resurrected and
used for cheap labor in many factories and fields.
Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do
about this, but there is a problem we still have a
chance to rectify.
On the Yahoo search engine Discordianism is placed in
the "Parody Religions" category. This confuses me.
What confuses me even more is that Scientology some
how made it into the "Non-Parody Religions" section. I
mean, come on! Have you read that crap?!
In fact, new religions are made up everyday and put
into the "Religions" category. It makes me feel hella
dissed.
It is true that our religion is very light-hearted,
and we often like to make fun of ourselves. But is
this any reason to describe our religion as a joke? I
think not!
Many cultures have trickster deities, yet their
religions aren't considered parodies. How do you think
the Native Americans would react to your placing their
religions in the "Parody" section? You'd be up to your
ass valves in lawsuits!
Luckily, Discordians have better ways to spend their
time than suing every yahoo (pun not intended) who
refuses to recognize our rights or look at our tattoos
and piercings (like trying to finish the calibrations
on the PIXIE IX Reverse-Photon Application Enhancer
before it is too late).
Whales howl at the moon because they don't have TV.
How could anyone deny the might of our goddess, Eris?
(She is also known as Discordia. Don't let this throw
you. She is fickle, and changes her name at will. She
also likes to shoe shop.)
Discordianism is the world's biggest religion. Every
single living thing (and some unliving things) are
Discordian Popes. Do you realize what this means?
Yahoo is belittling *your* religion by placing it in
the "Parody" section! Are you going to stand for that?
Chaos is everywhere. Does your house stay neat after
you clean it? No. It reverts to it's natural cluttered
state.
Don't you ever wonder where your socks disappear to
during the laundry process? (Eris demands lots of
sockrifices.)
Things couldn't change without Eris' guiding hand.
Sure, sometimes the changes suck (and leave you with a
burning sensation when you urinate), but they are all
necessary. Without them everything would stagnate and
die (of boredom).
Two trains 23 kilometers apart leave at 5:00.
Here is what Discordians would like to see happen: we
want corporate sponsers to pay for our free,
fun-loving lives. ("This night of drunken fun is
brought to you by Rancho Deluxo Burritos." You get the
idea.) Of course, this probably won't happen anytime
soon, but see if you can get the ball rolling on this,
okay?
We would also like Discordianism to be taken out of
the "Parody Religion" area and placed in the
"Religion" section with our stuffy counterparts.
If this cannot be accomplished we ask--Nay! We
demand!...Nay, we ask that Christianity, Judaism and
Islam be placed in the "Parody Religions" section as
well.
Fish!
I know that Yahoo has given you mighty, god-like
powers. Please use these powers for good, and make the
requested changes. "Change-it isn't just for diapers
any more!"
May Eris bless your days!
Synchronously yours,
Dingo Kaka--High Mucky-Muck of the Goofball Cabal and
Patron Saint of the Dingo Phenomenon
Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole's Jake
To the prettiest one:
Dear Eris,
Look, babe, I know you like to hide under a veil of confusion sometimes, well OK most times, I mean look at what you did to those poor ancient Greeks and their "argh - makes no sense - must FIX" attitudes, you actually got them thinking you were some kind of supervillain...
But we've been discussing the matter at length down here on this little
ol' ball o' dirt and we've been thinking. Since everyone here is a
Holey Discordian Pope anyway, maybe, just maybe, it's time they knew
about it, without so easily being able to dismiss it as a "joke."
So on behalf of my fellow Popes (and those of us with acting roles as
Bishops, Cardinals, Vicars, Fakirs, Shamans, Accountants and so forth)
I'd like to appeal you to drop by the pineal glands of Those What Index
It All, aka the employees of Yahoo!, just for a quick visit you know,
for tea and cookies and maybe some ice cream if you have the time, and
tell 'em you've had enough. Time to step out of the shadows. We know
it's fun pretending you're a joke and all, but wouldn't it be just as
fun to pretend you're not one, at least for a little while, hon? We
know WE would find it fun. Super-fun. Hell yeah.
I mean let's face it. You've been around a hell of a lot longer than
Scientology, the Church of the SubGenius, The Raelian Movement, and That
What Indexed It All (aka Yahoo!) and you'll outlast them all, too.
You're continually misunderstood by most, but that's not your fault, and
you know it, too.
But you know - no pressure. If being listed under "Home > Society and
Culture > Religion and Spirituality" is a bit too Thudditical for your
tastes at the current time, we'll understand. In fact we appreciate
that being listed even under "Home > Entertainment > Humor > Religion >
Religious Parodies" might be a bit too Seriously Ordered for your
tastes. In which case have you considered moving your ass to something
truly confusing such as "Home > Science > Engineering > Petroleum
Engineering > Offshore Drilling > Opposing Views" or "Home > Science >
Biology > Zoology > Animals, Insects, and Pets > Pets > Loss and
Bereavement > Memorials" or "Home > Regional > Countries > Canada >
Provinces and Territories > Manitoba > Regions > Capital> Cities >
Winnipeg > Recreation and Sports > Curling" or something.
Hail you. Amen. Praise Allah. Hocus-Pocus. QED. Have a nice day.
Everything's yours,
Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole, BSR
Chaplain-Commandant-in-Standing,
Greater Winnipeg Area Discordianism Fan Club
http://www.catseye.mb.ca/gwadfc/
Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole Sent Wonk's Jake in:
5/23/01
Subject: Ha Ha Only Serious
Yahoo Gurus,
The "ha ha only serious" worldview has not yet been
considered as a socially learned skill. Until it is, groups like the
Church of the SubGenius, the Discordians and the Cthulhuvians will
not be taken seriously as subjects of study. In essence, the "joke"
will continue until the groups engage in activity that merits
traditional attention placed upon them, either in the media or in
academia.
Consider yourself informed, this IS the aforementioned
activity. Get it?
Seriously just kidding,
Wonk
This is not a threat; why would you think it might be?
p.s. Please move "Discordianism" to the "Religions" category or else
move "Christianity", "Judaism", "Pentacolstal" etc. to the
"Parody/Religions" category. If you don't, we will start a new movement
to refer to Yahoo as a Parody Search Engine and Yahooka, YaJew, Yippee,
etc. as Serious Search Engines.
Here is the Jake Prince Mu-Chao sent on 5/23 -
frater perderabo once said:
That is not which is.
The only Word is Silence.
The only Meaning of that Word is not.
Thoughts are false.
Fatherhood is unity disguised as duality.
Peace implies war.
Power implies war.
Harmony implies war.
Victory implies war.
Glory implies war.
Foundation implies war.
Alas! for the Kingdom wherein all these are at war.
you have not yet moved Discordia out of the parody section. there will be
consequences. what do you know about ants? we are serious. we are holding
your souls hostage until our demand is met. we are not parody. move us to
art if you must. we are not a joke. we are deadly serious. save your
barcodes. move discordia to your religions page. the fate of your souls
depend on it. we have a kosmic garbage compactor. warning: save your
barcodes.
parody is art.
art is religion.
silence is war.
not-doing is war.
what man is at home at Yahoo?
get out.
get out.
save your barcodes.
if discordia is still listed as a parody religion by the time the goddess'
birthday arrives, your souls will be forfeit. you have been warned. save
your barcodes.
* * * * *
Prince Mu-Chao (pmc@castlechaos.com)
"What would Duff Man Do?" - Ambrose Bierce
* * * * *
to this jake I attached a GIF. Every day until it is moved
I will continue to send them barcodes under different email addresses
(hotmail is great, aint it?)
Hexar le Saipe's Jake:
To whom it may concern... or not;
Sirs (and/or madams), I am a practicing pagan... apparently I haven't
gotten it right yet.
Specifically I follow the Greco-Roman goddess of chaos, Eris
Discordia by name. The lady of chaos touches all aspects of my life
and has changed my from my former self. So I find myself angered that
Yahoo has chosen to list Discordianism as a "Parody Religion." I do
not see Yahoo! treating the Wiccans or the Asatru this way, even the
Satanists are not treated as a parody (and if I ever saw a joke, its
name is Church of Satan.)
A quick search of Yahoo! Site Matches showed three discordian sites,
one broken link, something called "Cult Master 2000" and two links to
essentially the same site listed under-
Society and Culture > Religion and Spirituality > Faiths and
Practices > Scientology > Opposing Views. I for one find it very
disturbing to be in the same catagory with the "Cult Master 2000."
I'm sure Yahoo! would feel the same under the circumstances.
I understand that Discordianism finds abunant humor that other
religions seem to have in short supply, but I do not understand how
that makes us a "parody." I (and many other discordians) would
appreciate it if you would either rethink your position on
Discordianism or place the other "mainstream" religions in the parody
catagory.
All that we ask is a level playing field... and tax exempt status.
Since Yahoo! cannot provide us with the latter, we sincerely ask for
your help with the former.
So Long and Thanks for all the Fish
Reverend Doctor Hexar le Saipe
The One True Pope of Mississippi
Velvet Earth Machine Cult
i was astonished, upon doing a search for groups sharing my religious persuasion, to find out that Yahoo! has listed "Discordianism" under the heading of "Parody Religion." While it may seem like a quirky religion, i can assure you that it has at its roots one of the most influential deities in the Greek pantheon. Why, Eris Discordia herself was said to have caused the great Trojan War! She had been snubbed. Lest you find yourselves in an altogether not dissimilar situation hardly unlike something such as one involving things resembling these, you should heretofore point that thing away from "Parody Religions" and towards, say, "Really Earnest and Only Incidentally Funny Cults."
Thank you for your time. Hail Eris!
CounterPope Meat Thing, KSC (et cetera) of the
really quite solemn Chimney-Possum DisLodge cabal, amongst others
Lord Falgan's (http://telesis.blogspot.com) beautiful series of emails:
Jake #1
Report PRL-052301-2317-e
Filed and Crossindexed. BEAST#0125-11111-mu5-0203
This report will remain on file for 5 years.
To: Yahoo URL Support
Fr: L. Falgan, Pineal Research Laboratory
Re: Index Error
Dear Dr. Yahoo URL Support:
This is a standard report generated by the CHAMOS system. CHAMOS has
detected a(n) Index Error (Class 2) in the Yahoo Index, and this report has
been automatically generated to inform you of the error.
CHAMOS (Chaos Monitoring System) was developed by the Pineal Research
Laboratory to track Brownian-Heisenberg Internet information flows within
normal Random/Uncertainty parameters.
Details of the error(s) are as follows:
*** CHAMOS SCAN 391119400-0105 Iteration P
*** URL:
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Religion/Religious_Parodies/Discordian/
*** Index Error (Class 2)
*** Bad Heuristic Value Association (fatal$)
*** Dumped to file ^greyface (!!)
*** Starting notification protocols...
*** lordfalgan@hotmail.com Done.
*** url-support@yahoo-inc.com Done.
*** violations@fcc.gov Done.
*** Notification protocols completed.
*** END OF REPORT
CHAMOS has analyzed the error(s) and recommends the following action(s):
*** SOLUTION MATRIX ACTIVE
*** SOLUTION 1: URL
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Religion/Religious_Parodies/Discordian/
should be re-indexed to
http://dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Religion_and_Spirituality/Faiths_and_Practices/.
*** SOLUTION 2: All URL(s) found at
http://dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Religion_and_Spirituality/Faiths_and_Practices/
should be re-indexed to
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Religion/Religious_Parodies/
*** No other solutions found.
*** Computing Brownian-Heisenberg Stability Factors... Done.
*** SOLUTION 1: 100% stability
*** SOLUTION 2: 100% stability
*** END SOLUTION MATRIX
These CHAMOS notifications are provided free of charge as a public service
to users of the Internet. If you have any questions or comments about this
report, please contact the Pineal Research Laboratory at
lordfalgan@hotmail.com . Please include the Report Number and CHAMOS Scan
number in all correspondence. Due to volume of mail received, a personal
reply may not be possible.
-----
The Pineal Research Laboratory is a subsidiary of the Novus Ordo Seclorum
Erisium, a non-prophet irreligious disorganization, and is not intended for
broadcast fnord.
Jake #2
Same as above, but with the following addition:
*****
THIS IS A SECOND NOTICE! Please verify with your own records that the index
error still exists and make changes to remove this error.
*****
Jake #3
Same as first, but with the following addition:
*****
THIS IS A THIRD NOTICE! Please verify with your own records that the index
error still exists and make changes to remove this error. DO NOT DISREGARD
THIS NOTICE! FAILURE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO SURROUNDING
CODE INDEXES AND JEOPARDIZE YOUR CREDIT RATING.
*****
Jake #4
Correspondence 1923-E-052901-0005
Logged and filed with FCC.
To: Yahoo URL Support
Fr: L. Falgan, Pineal Research Laboratory
Re: Lightning Damage
Our records show that you have received an CHAMOS error notification letter
within the past 30 days. (Report PRL-052301-2317-e - Index Error)
Unfortunately, due to an Act of God*, all CHAMOS records of any
correspondence within the past 30 days have been lost.
To ensure that proper notification of all CHAMOS-detected errors are
documented and recorded by all concerned parties, CHAMOS will be resending
the error notification messages to you within the next 24 hours.
It is possible you have received second and third notifications of errors.
In such a case, please do not wait for further notification and take the
suggested remedies immediately.
We apologize for the incovenience.
L. Falgan
Pineal Research Laboratory
-----
The Pineal Research Laboratory is a subsidiary of the Novus Ordo Seclorum
Erisium and is not to be resold or repackaged.
* We are not certain which God is responsible for this damage at this time.
Please contact the FBI (case number 172305) with any information which could
help reveal the identity of the perpetrator.
Of course, Lord Flagan resent the first three emails a second time...
...and still there was no response. So...
To: Yahoo URL Support
Fr: L. Falgan, Pineal Research Lab
Re: Code Faults and Runtime Check Errors
Dear Dr. Yahoo URL Support:
It has come to my attention that you have been sent three notification error
messages regarding a detected Index Error (Class 2) as a result of a
standard CHAMOS scan. (A fourth copy of the error message will be appended
here for your reference.)
CHAMOS has further reported that the identified error has not been fixed,
despite the warnings and explanation of consequences your organization can
face for allowing it to remain.
Honestly, Dr. Yahoo URL Support, can you afford to allow this error to
remain? Many people do not understand how Brownian-Heisenberg information
flows operate, so it is understandable that you may be reticent to
investigate the error. But let me explain why allowing this error to go
unchecked and unfixed is of negative value.
A badly indexed B-H flow causes random-uncertainty traces to be diverted
improperly to other code indexes. In some cases, this causes an Entropy
Loop, where information flows back on itself in a Negative Sum recursion,
and causes a buildup of electronic entropic particles within the hardware of
your machines.
A Negative Sum Recursion Entropy Loop (NSREL) can cause any of the
following:
- Slow disk activity.
- Corrupted data.
- File loss.
- Server integrity loss (server crashes).
- Print spooler integrity loss (printer crashes).
- Freezes and lockups.
- Slow booting, or lockup on shutdown.
- Internal hardware damage.
- Electrocution.
You probably have noticed some of this activity occuring on your system. I
can assure you, with a NSREL, things will only get worse. The good news is
that if you correct the improper index, a very simple task, you can avoid
further problems like the ones listed above.
Please read over the attached error message and take its advice. We are only
looking after the safety of your equipment and your employees. If you have
any questions about this email, you can contact me at lordfalgan@hotmail.com
Kindest regards,
L. Falgan, Pineal Research Laboratory
-----
(attached original error message)
Helga's Jake:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have been a Discordian for some time now, and while I can understand and
appreciate misdirection and nonsequitur in the name of educative and
recreational humor as well as the next person (and probably a little better,
given that I'm probably a little more likely to be perpetrating it that
observing or receiving it), I had been hoping that the categorization of my
religion was a temporary misunderstanding at worst, or at best a fond
joke-in-kind to make us feel welcomed.
However, Discordianism is still being listed as a parody religion, and this
puzzles me utterly. "Parody" in what sense? We revere a deity (Eris, the
Greek goddess of, among other things, Discord and Lawn Gnomes), there are
many followers of our faith worldwide (just check out sometime how many
downloads there have been of any given copy of the online version of
"Principia Discordia - our seminal religious writing, from which all other
Discordian writings take their basis, and from which all of us take at least
some small portion of our belief structure). How does an institution such
as Yahoo decide what is "parody" and what is non-parody (original? real?
serious?), in terms of religion?
You might be put off by "nonsense" that you receive from Discordians, or see
on Discordian websites, but truly the basis of the Discordian hope and
mindset is the concept that we have power over our reality, and as such we
choose to imbue our reality with as much humor and texture as possible.
"Nothing is true; everything is permitted." How is this different from
Neurolinguistic Programming, for example (other than the aspect of Deity in
the form of Eris), which teaches that people can change their internal
"programming" for the better, to improve their lives?
Doing a search on "NLP" among Yahoo's Groups showed me that NLP is listed in
such diverse categories as Social Science, Hypnotherapy, and Christianity.
There is no NLP-related group among "Parody Religions," which is where
Discordianism finds itself, despite sharing many similar techniques and
goals. Except for the lawn gnomes.
Please create a "Discordianism" category under "Religions" and allow us, and
any other groups who feel that this category best matches their chosen
belief system, to move our group within a category that does not minimize or
invalidate the worth and importance of our beliefs, as "Parody" quite
thoroughly does.
Yours in Eris,
Helga Murray
Lord Randominus' Jake:
Yahoo!,
I am gravely concerned about your lack of response in regards to the lack of response to the Discordian Communities cry for understanding. One would think that in such enlightened times as these the addition of a sense of humor to a religion would not discountant it as "parody". Nonetheless, when I searched recently for Discordia on Yahoo! I found it once again under the disturbing category of parody religions.
THIS MUST STOP!!
How is it that a religion based on balance and freedom of expression in a completely non destructive way is called a "parody", yet sleeping in a pyramid with patchouli burning listening to some one tell you your chakras are enflamed while yanni drones in the background is considered spirituality. How can running across hot rocks, or worshiping the tentacled space God XENU who gloms on to your thetans be taken as religion, and The Law of Fives be discounted as parody (if you think the fives thing is a joke read Bucky Fuller).
In conclusion I demand that Discordianism be placed with the rest of the parody religions (aka. scientology, christianity, new age, wicca et. al.) If these demands are not met The ACOSB will have no choice but to stand around milling, drink too much coffee, and possibly say things like "JERK!!", "GRRRR!!!", and "SLAPPYBACK!!!!", and this is only the beginning of our onslaught continued resistance will find us sleeping, or working, eventually one of us may die(probably an old or sick one), and the coyotes will mill about waiting for the Olde One. He comes to them on rented shoes. His eyes glimmer like a glimmery thing that's really glimmery and he will say unto his children, "why are you milling about? Don't any of you have jobs?", and they will reply "woof" or some such coyote like response, and they will eat him like unto a John Sausage. Amen.
Lord Randominus
"Keep your eye on the sparrow." --Ambrose Bierce
The following is what Malefactorum, Grand Duke Astoreth sent Yahoo. I have babelfish'd it and the results are reproduced in the next section for your reading pleasure in case you do not read German.
I, Abdul Al-Hazred, sagen dieses zu Ihnen: Die älteren Götter haben
den verdammten Schlaf gesetzt. Und sie dieser Besetzer mit den
Dichtungen und wecken die Lagerschwellen auch werden verdammt auf.
Und ich sage weiter, liege hierin die buchstabiere, um die Dichtungen
zu brechen, die im thrall Cthulhu und sein ebon horde anhalten. Für
habe mich meine Lebensdauer verbracht, um sie alle zu erlernen. So
ist Dummkopf, die Schwärzung oben im Platz pent: Die Gatter zur Hölle
sind geschlossen. Sie einmischen sich an Ihren eigenen Unkosten: Wenn
Sie benennen, wecken sie auf und beantworten Sie. Dieses ist mein
Geschenk zur Menschheit -- sind hier die Tasten. Finden Sie Ihre
eigenen Verriegelungen; seien Sie froh. I, Sagen Abdul Al-Hazred
dieses zu Ihnen: I, das sich abgaben und morgens wütend.
Im Namen Allah das wohlt^§tige, das Merciful.
1.1: Alles Lob liegt an Allah, der Lord der Welten.
1.2: Das wohltätige, das Merciful.
1.3: Meister des Tages des Urteils.
1.4: Thee wir dienen und Thee beseech wir für Hilfe.
1.5: Halten Sie uns auf dem rechten Pfad.
1.6: Der Pfad von denen nach, wem schenkte hast Thou Bevorzugungen.
Nicht (der Pfad) von denen nach wem wird Wrath Thy gesenkt noch von
denen, die verloren gehen.
KENNEN SIE YE DIESER O Mann DES GLAUBENS!
I - Es gibt keine Göttin, aber Göttin und sie sind Ihre Göttin. Es
gibt keine Bewegung Erisian, aber die Bewegung und es Erisian sind
die Bewegung Erisian. Und jedes goldene Apfelkorps ist das geliebte
Haus einer goldenen Endlosschraube.
II - Ein cordian Dis benutzt immer das amtliche Dokument-Zahlensystem
Discordian.
III - Ein Discordian wird während seiner frühen Ablichtung, alleine
auszugehen u. Partake Joyously eines heiüen Hundes an einem Freitag
angefordert; diese Zeremonie Devotive zu Remonstrate gegen das
populäre Paganisms des Tages: vom katholischen Christentum (kein
Fleisch am Freitag), des Judentums (kein Fleisch von
Schweinefleisch), der Völker Hindic (kein Fleisch des Rindfleisches),
der Buddhisten (kein Fleisch des Tieres) und des Discordians (keine
heiüer Hundebrötchen).
IV - Ein Discordian Partake ohne heiüer Hundebrötchen, für so war-
das Solace unserer Göttin, als sie mit dem urspr^ºnglichen Snub
konfrontiert wurde.
V - ein Discordian wird vom Glauben verboten, was er liest.
ES WIRD SO GESCHRIEBEN! SEIEN SIE SO ES HAGEL DISCORDIA! VERFOLGER
SIND TRANSGRESSICUTED.
--
In the Service of the Elders of the Illuminati,
Malefactorum, Grand Duke Astoreth
The babelfish'd version of the above letter:
I, Abdul aluminium-Hazred, say this to you: The older Gods set the condemned sleep. And they this Besetzer with the seals and wake up the stocks thresholds also condemned. And I legend further, am situated herein spell, in order to break the seals, which stop horde/hurdle in thrall the Cthulhu and its ebon. For my life span spent me, in order to learn it all. Like that is fool, which pent above density in the workstation: The gates to hell are closed. They interfere at your own expenses: If you designate, they wake and answer they this up are my gift to mankind -- are here the keys. Find your own interlocks; you are glad. I, legends Abdul aluminium-Hazred of this to you: I, delivered themselves and in the morning furiously.
In the name Allah the wohlt^§tige, the Merciful.
1.1: All praise is because of Allah, the lord of the worlds.
1.2: The charitable, the Merciful.
1.3: Master of the daily of the judgement.
1.4: Thee we serve and Thee beseech we for assistance.
1.5: Hold for us on the right path.
1.6: The path of those after, whom has Thou gave preferences. Not (the path) from those to whom Wrath Thy lowered still of those, which are lost.
KNOW YE of THIS O man of the FAITH!
I - there is no goddess, but goddess and they are your goddess. There is no movement Erisian, but the movement and there Erisian are the movement Erisian. And each golden apple corps is the loved house of a golden continuous screw.
II - cordian a Dis always uses the official document number system Discordian.
III - a Discordian during its early photocopy to go out alone and requested Partake Joyously of a heiueen dog on one Friday; this ceremony Devotive to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the daily: of the catholic Christianity (no meat on Friday), the Judentums (no meat of schweinefleisch), the peoples Hindic (no meat of the beef), the Buddhisten (no meat of the animal) and the Discordians (no heiueer dog rolls).
IV - a Discordian Partake without heiueer dog rolls, for like that be-being that Solace of our goddess, when it was confronted with the urspr^ºnglichen Snub.
V - a Discordian is forbidden by the faith, what he reads.
IT IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY! THEY ARE LIKE THAT IT HAIL DISCORDIA! PURSUERS ARE TRANSGRESSICUTED.
--
In the Service of the Elders of the Illuminati,
Malefactorum, Grand Duke Astoreth
Klyf's friend Mark sent the following Jake:
re: Yahoo! Group "Discordia"
Parody? Do you know that Eris really *is* a member of the Greek
Pantheon? In light of the current situation, I feel compelled to lighten
your load of ignorance.
------------
"in Greek religion, goddess of strife. Angered at not being invited to
the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, she threw down the apple of discord
(see Paris, in Greek mythology)."
(encyclopedia.com )
http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/15587.html
------------
"Roman Discordia, in Greco-Roman mythology, the personification of
strife, daughter of Nyx, and sister and companion of Ares, or the Roman
Mars. Eris is best known for her part in starting the Trojan War. When
she alone of the gods was not invited to the marriage of Peleus and
Thetis, she threw among the guests a golden apple... "
(Encyclopedia Britannica)
http://www.eb.com/bol/search?type=topic&query=eris&DBase=Articles
------------
I find it highly irritating that you would be so confused as to write off
the Goddess who started the Trojan war as "Parody." While I expect that
kind of idiocy from the people sleeping down at the bus depot, I find it
immensely deplorable from such an Icon of information and knowledge that
Yahoo! seemed (otherwise) to be. However, having one of the Internet's
leading search engines has apparently led Yahoo! down a path of
complacency with regards to their familiarity with Classical Literature
and Mythology. Yet another symptom of the decline of that which we
Americans refer to so loosely as our "Educational System."
Sincerely and Disgustedly Yours,
kaosnight
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot for a moment what the word "yahoo" meant.
St. Mae's Jake:
Dear Yahoo,
I have been a long-time user of your site, your clubs, your webrings, and
many of your other services. Even though I worked for a direct competitor
of yours for a while, I still faithfully used your website(s).
The reason I am writing to you is that I am very dissapointed at your
treatment of my religion, Discordianism. You have Discordianism listed
under "parody religions". I find this very offensive, for my faith to be
treated as some kind of joke.
At age 14, I had a revelation: I was born again into the love of Eris, my
divine goddess of chaos. You would call this a "parody"?? Every Friday, I
eat a hotdog without a bun. Every 5/23 I lovingly dust off Emperor
Norton's grave. Every Discordian holiday, I am out celebtrating until the
wee hours of the night. How is this some sort of joke??
I'm sure you too would be dismayed to find that your faith was listed
under "humor". We will not be trivialized!
Yahoo, please recognize my faith as the valid religion it is. Sure, the
followers of Discordia may not be as many as the legions who follow Jesus
or Buddha or Vishnu. Sure, our holy ceremonies may look silly to some -
but this is the case with all religions.
In closing, I urge you to put Discordianism under Religion & Spirituality
- where it truely belongs.
May chaos visit you in your sleep.
Sincerely,
Saint Mae
Hicutus Confusus sent the following:
To Whom It May Concern: (this means you)(right?)
As an active non-member of the Discordian Faith (which is not actual faith, but rather, Malevolent Doubt, in some sense) It is my duty/whim/true will to inform you that we (and I use the word ‘we’ loosely) take a certain amount of offense to being described as a ‘parody religion’.
Firstly, ours is not a religion, rather we are a tribe of philosophers, theologians, magicians, scientists, artists, clowns, and similar maniacs who are intrigued with ERIS GODDESS OF CONFUSION and with Her Doings --And then some of us aren't.
Secondly, we do not exist to simply parody, or make fun of the faith of others. (Of course, we do actually do that, but not simply for it’s own sake.)
Twenty Thirdly, we take what is humorous seriously, and we take being serious humorously. That is to say, our dogma, which is in truth not dogma, but catma, instructs us to never take ourselves too seriously, or to take others at all (they should instead, be left alone, unless they ask for a ride) Thusly, for You-Hoo! to label us in such a way that others think we should be taken simply as a joke is both erroneous and libelous. In a nutshell, we do not parody the religion of others, we parody our own religion, and not out of irreverence per se, but out of our greatest respect for the central idea that people, and the world we live in, are/is more important than religious ideology, and by parodying our own ideology (which is not even ideology) we assure that the tools of belief/doubt always remain as tools and never turn into shackles.
In short, we are not a joke. We subscribe to a viable, alternative to religion itself. And ‘we’ would like it very much if you would put us in a more appropriate category than ‘parody religions’
The people have spoken! We may not be unified, but we can make a lot of noise.
Thank you
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!
Hicutus Confusus Episkipos (DSM)
Another from Mu-Chao:
MOVE discordia.
Please?
We won't stop, you know.
None of us have jobs.
This is what we do.
Oh, sure.
You're amused now.
Just wait until next month.
you'll be pretty sick of us.
we can be quite boring when provoked.
* * * * *
Prince Mu-Chao (pmc@castlechaos.com)
"What would Duff Man Do? He'd move Discordia to Religions and Christianity
to Parody. Oh yeah." - Ambrose Bierce
* * * * *
Next in our vast array of Jakes is Wonk's Second Letter:
Hello Yahoosers, Yahoosians, Yahoobas, and whoever else may be reading this,
I would like to compliment you on having such a fine search
engine that excels in so many ways. However, there is one
significant thing that needs improving. You have somehow listed
"Discordianism" in the wrong category. Unless you can prove that it
is only a joke and somehow inferior to those other mainstream
"religions" which you have listed in the religion category, you
should move it into the proper category as soon as possible. The
proper category, of course, would be "religions" and not "parody
religions" where you currently have it indexed. We would be glad to
engage in a debate with you over what differentiates a cult from a
religion from a joke, and we think we would win, or else we wouldn't
be bothering you in the first place. To me, most mainstream
religions would be more accurately classified as cults, but I'm not
insisting that you classify them as such, as I do believe in freedom
of religion. I would be satisfied just to have Discordianism
classified correctly, fnord.
Do you know that Eris really *is* a member of the Greek
Pantheon? In light of the current situation, I feel compelled to
lighten your load of ignorance with some things that can be found in
your own most excellent search engine.
-----
"in Greek religion, goddess of strife. Angered at not
being invited to the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, she threw down the
apple of discord (see Paris, in Greek mythology)."
(encyclopedia.com )
http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/15587.html
-----
"Roman Discordia, in Greco-Roman mythology, the
personification of strife, daughter of Nyx, and sister and companion
of Ares, or the Roman Mars. Eris is best known for her part in
starting the Trojan War. When she alone of the gods was not invited
to the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, she threw among the guests a
golden apple... "
(Encyclopedia Britannica)
http://www.eb.com/bol/search?type=topic&query=eris&DBase=Articles
-----
One thing I have noticed about Discordians that I have known
is they tend to have significantly above average IQs with an almost
obsessive attention to proper language. This could be because many
of them are also computer programmers, and I'm sure you can
understand how computers require "correct language" in their
instructions or else they drastically misbehave. When Discordians
play with language, let me assure you, it is no accident, shawuzbatim
keelowza hophraloo.
Fnord?
If Discordianism is a joke at all, the joke is making fun of
the fact that all mainstream religion's dogmas are composed of vague
language that can be interpreted as needed to justify and rationalize
practically anything convenient at the time. Even if Discordianism
includes jokes, why should that disqualify it from being an actual
religion as well? As far as I am aware, there is no hard and fast
rule that religion must be a downer, even though current mainstream
media indicate that those types have dominated popular cultures
lately, by which I mean since the beginning of the Dark Ages. By no
means does that give them the right to bully everyone forever. Their
power derives from the fact that we collectively let them do what
they are doing, which includes such silly things as ignoring the
scientific method and laughing off the democratic process. To me, it
is a hilarious joke on the citizens of the world that the Attorney
General of the one remaining hyper-power-state holds daily
Presbyterian prayer meetings in government offices during office
hours, and that the public lets him waste tax dollars like that.
It's also gut-bustingly funny that ~80% of the ambassadors Dubya is
currently sending to represent your country to foreign countries have
absolutely no diplomatic experience other than being campaign donors
to his quest to fool enough of the voting public in November 2000.
No wonder the GOP argues to shrink government; they themselves
cripple it in the first place. That, however, is another entire
topic of discussion.
Let me clarify my main point once again, in case you somehow
missed it. Put Discordianism in the "religion" category, and we'll
all be much happier, and maybe you will too.
Ha Ha Only sErIoUs,
Wonk
http://www.catseye.mb.ca/lwadfc/
Save your barcodes. --Ambrose Bierce
Yet another by Mu-Chao:
Hello,
This message is intended to be read by the support tech in charge of reading
all URL changes.
Well, what do you think? Are you a Discordian yet? The pull to join with
us must be tremendous in you.
This is a one-time special offer that will not be repeated. If you send a
Jake to yourself (via url-support@yahoo-inc.com) and forward it to me, you
will be made a Saint of Discordia and will be featured prominently in our
next holy book.
Think of it! You'll be famous! You will also get a percentage of the money
made off of the book. Since we will probably give it away for free, this
will not be very much - but if you supply us with your address, we will make
sure to mail you a check monthly, even if it is for $0.00.
We will not publish your name - no one will ever know but we Discordians.
Please, for Eris' sake, jake yourself into changing the category of
Discordia in the Yahoo! listings.
* * * * *
Prince Mu-Chao (pmc@castlechaos.com)
* * * * *
A letter sent a while ago by Mark D. Carabas that I forgot to include (oops):
The following is an excerpt from the Discordian Holy Book of Musings:
Book 5
1 - Lo! Reverend Mark D. Carabas was searching high and low on the
great indexing of the web that spans the world, but he could not find
neither hide nor hair of the Word.
2 - Suddenly there was a great flashing of monitors and wailing of
drives, and there did come to pass that Eris herself appeared before
him, cunningly disguised as a blue screen with white writing.
3 - And Eris spake to the unworthy Mark Carabas, saying unto him, "Go
forth and hit the reset button that thou may again begin thy
browsing."
4 - As the dim-witted Mark reached for the button, again the screen
did flash, and Eris said "Wait you fool, that I may speak and thou
shalt receive my great guidance that thou art in sore need of."
5 - Mark waited until the sun rose in the sky, but Eris uttered no
further word.
6 - Then, as Mark grew tired, he noticed the message "Hit the Any
Key" and he was sore perplexed as his keyboard did not have a key
called any.
7 - And he grew vexed, and banged his fist upon the keyboard and
Behold! the Goddess in her mercy pitied the foo and spake unto him
once more.
8 - "Go and after thy reseting is done, go unto the place of the
Yahoo, and amongst them thou shalt see Discordia under the bleak sign
of the religions of parody."
9 - Mark grew vexed again, as was his wont, and wailed "Goddess Eris,
does it please you that we are regarded as mere humor and not as a
faith?!"
10 - And again the Goddess spake "No, it is not pleasing to mine
eyes, and so I give you, and all those who worship me, the great
quest to appeal to the Gods of the Yahoo tribe to correct this great
injustice, lest I too grow vexed and send upon them great plagues of
chaos."
11 - "Further, let thou all do this deed upon the Holy day 5/23, that
all may see mine own hand in this work when we achieve our great
goal."
12 - Mark lazily spewed "Awww, that sounds a lot like work, do I have
to?"
13 - And there was a great wind that scattered papers about the place
and in a puff of purple smoke Eris appeared.
14 - She looked upon Mark and gave him a great smack about the head
and said "Shut up you ruined the whole Biblical tone of the piece you
smuck, just do it"
15 - With those words she disappeared, leaving Mark to wonder why she
was quoting Nike.
23 - But Mark was in fear of the Goddess and he did as she asked and
all came about as she foretold.
The following was written by Jenny (a faery) and sent in by Bishop Sqarepeg Roundhole:
---begin jake---
Hi there!
My name is Jenny, and I'm a faery! Do you believe *that*?!
No, I imagine you don't. Your loss...
Hey, I could go and glue white feathers on these butterfly wings of
mine, grab a white gown, wear a glowing Ring on my head and claim I'm an
angel sent by GOD. Would you believe *THAT*!?!
No, I imagine you'd *still* be skeptical...
Actually, I imagine you sitting there, on your ass, in your
not-quite-comfortable-enough office chair, your half-eaten McDonald's
burger on your desk beside you, right beside the little Dilbert calendar
that almost keeps you from going insane while you're stuck in your tiny
cubicle in that passionless veal-fattening pen you call your 'job'...
wanly combing through the incoming e-mail, wondering if the next one is
going to be worth taking seriously, or whether it will be just another
"kook" suggesting that Discordianism should be placed in a less
degrading category on your website.
Has it even *occured* to you that it might be *BOTH*?
If not, you don't understand quantum physics nearly as well as you like
to brag to your friends that you do. Throw one basketball at two hoops
enough times and eventually it WILL go through both of them, you know.
So what's it going to take? A bribe?
I hate to stoop to such a level, but very well, if that's what it's come
down to...
Here, take 125,000 Zorkmids! Go ahead, take 'em! They're yours!
No, seriously. TAKE them. They're right here.
What do you mean, you can't? Yes you can!
What do you MEAN, they're not real? Sure they are! They're Zorkmids!
What - you're going to insist they're not real just because you can't
SEE them? How stupid is that?!? I might as well insist YOU don't exist
because I can't see YOU! But I'm talking to you, aren't I?!?
What?!? You're saying they're not real because they don't have any
weight? Because you can't hold them in your hand? Oh, for... I might
as well say that Yahoo! isn't real because IT doesn't have any weight
and I can't hold IT in my hand! Do you take me for a fool?!?
What do you MEAN, they don't have any VALUE to you?!? They're
*ZORKMIDS*! They're accepted at just about every Surreal Supermart I
can think of! There's practically no end of Spiritual Technology you
can buy with them!!! Don't you *want* a new eSoTErIC lAWnMoWEr?!?
Couldn't you *use* a new Burke Spindustries Mk-5 Spacetime Stapler?
Come ON! Be reasonable!
Good grief! You're so hopelessly certain that I'm not making any
sense! Who told you to be so certain? What *evidence* do you have that
faeries aren't real? Just because it strikes you as silly doesn't mean
it's not true. Just because the thought of it makes you feel
uncomfortable doesn't mean we don't exist. If those were the case,
then how would you explain the duck-billed platypus... and headcheese?
You're just one of those stupidly prideful people who just can't admit
that YOU COULD BE WRONG, ain't ya?
No?
OK, then! So TAKE them already! 125,000 Zorkmids! Right here!
Come ON!!!
Huh. Alright. You drive a hard bargain.
2,500,000 Zorkmids. That's my final offer.
WHAT?!?!?
Oh, NOW you've done it. I've been nothing but genuine and honest with
you, yet you insist that you don't need to pay attention because "it's
just crazy talk." Fine, then. You asked for it, buddy. I'm showing up
in your dreams *tonight*. YES, tonight. Oh, you might not remember it
when you wake up. In fact, yeah, I'll bet you don't remember your
dreams very often, do you? You candy-glass-reality types never do. But
that changes nothing. I WILL be there whether you notice me or not. I
will get inside that BOX you call your mind while you sleep and PLAY
with it until you decide to start thinking OUTSIDE of it for a change.
Quit telling Erisians what their religion IS and IS NOT...
...as if YOU would know and THEY wouldn't.
*LISTEN* for once!
Downright disgusted,
Jenny
Trade Envoy First Class, Interspiritual Faery Currency Exchange
Vive la revolution de la fee! Vive l'esprit libre! Teeheeheeheehee!
---end jake---
Hicutus Confusus says that he has been sending several iterations of the "Save Your Barcodes" message, as follows:
Dear Sirs,
If you have been recieving emails that require you to 'Save Your Barcodes' please do so by all means!!
Don't you understand? Your very souls are in limbo!
It is important to save your barcodes.
Say it our loud... "Save Your Barcodes" That's right, just think it out loud in your head...
Save Your Barcodes
The Afirmative Barcode Salvation Squad (TABSS)
HCE
p.s. Save Your Barcodes
Saint Durrutti sent in the following:
Now I know this is hardly an original sentiment at this point, but I'm gonna complain anyway about discordian clubs being listed as a parody religion.
Think about it. Are we really on a level with those thieving bastards at the Church of the SubGenius? Would you lump us in with the Cult of Dan? Are we truly as low as the Temple of Sex Appeal? (I know for a fact we're sexier than that bunch.)
Our rituals are ancient, dating back at least as far as Scientology, and probably further than most Wiccans except the real hardcores. We predate most of that New Age crap, and Falun Gong is as an infant beside us.
Our beliefs find their origins in the most ancient shamanism and the most modern physics, but especially in a manifestation in a bowling alley snack bar. Honestly, how can you take any religion seriously if it has no bowling and no snacks?
Our fellow believers are legion. No less a figure than "President" George II can be counted among us (although in all fairness, he's probably not aware of this fact. It's a little noted fact that millions of people are discordians and don't even know it.)
You may think we look a little silly, but how do you think all you people look to us? (Answer: like cabbages.)
Beware, heathen, for my goddess is a hip and sexy lady.
Hail Eris.
Saint Durrutti, No Particular Title
soror xenobia sent in the following jake:
dear sirs:
it has come to my attention that you have chosen to
take it upon yourself(ves) to make fun of my spiritual
beliefs. i must say that i am a bit outraged at this
kind of behavior from such a respectable business. i
take great offense to my religion being listed in the
yahoo directory as a "parody religion". who makes
these decisions? are we discordians not as devout as
any of the many religions you have listed in your
"spirituality" category? if you cut us, do we not
bleed. if you put ex-lax in our brownies, do we not
squirt? if you call our noble and sacred spiritual
beliefs a "parody", do we not feel like the one little
girl you used to sit next to in third grade who always
wet herself?
i urge you to take this matter into hand immediately.
we are as religious as any other religion - some of us
more so - and we don't take this abuse lightly.
hail eris! all hail discordia!
soror xenobia
high temple handmaiden and chaoslut of eris, POEE
John Alexander decided to take a different route with his jake:
Dear Sir,
Recently has it come to my atention that the foul Menace of the Net known as the Discordian, the evil worshippers of a pagan roman Goddess have been working their ill will upon you and your fine Company.
They are no parady they say and this in fact is true for although they cower behind jokes and twisted meanings they are in fact a dread menace an EVIL I would even say. They're Goddess is none other than the WHORE of BABYLON and theyre actions are none other than the work of SATAN, Lucifer, the Prince of Lies and Stealer of Souls.
A Good and Godly man such as myself is safe perhaps from their menaces, despite even the temptations of the one they call the Chaoslut with her smooth skin and fiery red hair that yes I have been tempted but throguh an iron disipline and a burning Faith in the Lord Almighty, Host of Hosts and Defender of the Faithfull have I been delivered from temptation. But not all are as strong as me, and with as many children there are on the Net and even women! not all are safe from this Menace and I urge you to purge the foul discordians from your fine Site and all places on the Net that you can.
My wife is a fine woman and loyal and respectful of my will yet i fear that one day she would be tempted to disobey my will and enter into the Net and then unless we are vigilant and weed out the un-Godly from our mist, even the faithful like my own woman may be tempted and then i would needs put her behind me and at my age how would i ever find another woman as young as her?
If you are a Godly man, sir, and fearful of the righteous wrath of the Lord then please i beg you in the name of God-fearing christians everyewhere thet you should dismiss these discordian Menace from your fine Web Site and all places where it may be within your Power.
Thank you for your consideration and my the holy Spirit guide you in the decisions you must now make for upon it rests your immortal soul.
Sincerely,
John Alexander
patriot@godmail.com
Eralle N. Taget sent the following:
Dear Overworked and Underpaid Staff,
It appears you have incorrectly located the Religion, Discordianism, in the
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Humor/Religion/Religious_Parodies/
directory. As Discordianism is at least as serious as all the Other major
Religions (perhaps more so), it would be appreciated if you were to put
Discordianism with all the other Religions in
http://dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Religion_and_Spirituality/Faiths_an
d_Practices/ , as we feel the current situation is an insult to Goddess.
Either move Discordianism to it's rightful place amongst all the Other major
Religions, or have all the Other major Religions moved to their rightful
place amongst Discordianism. We understand that you are rather stressed, and
have a lot of work to do, so we will forgive you understandingly, if you
don't Move Discordianism to It's Rightful Place Today, but wait until
tomorrow instead.
Yours Sincerely,
Eralle N. Taget
This unbelievable letter was sent to us by Vicar Grotto Brain-Pan
Dear Sir, Madam, or Trans-Gender Being to Whom Neither Title Applies:
I was not under the impression that it was the policy of Yahweh!, er I
mean Yahoo!, to keep horses on staff. Was I mistaken?
Popular opinion would seem to disagree with your categorization of
"Discordian" as a "Parody Religion." No Discordian would look at it
that way, any more than a worshipper of Thor or Brighid or Allah or the
Christian-Idea-of-God would see his or her dedication to their deity of
choice as a "parody." And it's not just Discordians that feel this way:
"Humor is central to Discordianism, but Discordianism should not be
dismissed as a joke. Profound experiences frequently accompany the
practice of Erisianism. It is a perceptual game, one which demonstrates
that the absurd is just as valid as the mundane and chaos is just as
valid as order. It frees the practitioner from the order games (that
most have forgotten are games) to play games with order or games with
chaos, or both. The effects of Discordianism upon an individual can be
far-reaching and amazingly liberating."
-- http://www.pagans.org/wicca/branches/branches.html
Modern Discordian works are always appreciably associated with Dada and
Surrealism, art forms which are often just as humorous, profound, and
paranoid as Discord, yet I see you do not list these as "Parody Artistic
Movements." Why not? I would enjoy listening to your reasoning.
This sentence is dull but sincere filler.
The concept of godliness is obviously paradoxical, yet few models of
god admit this and many make a pretense of god being a perfect, complete
being. However, the contradictions are overwhelming. God is
benevolent, yet he lets innocent children starve to death... God is
omnipresent, and therefore exists everywhere including the godless hell
that he created... all actions are the will of God, including those of
the heretics... God works in any number of mysterious ways, yet he is
supposed to have left behind a blueprint to the One True Path(tm) in a
fancy book of fables which has been mistranslated from Hebrew to Greek
to English... and those are just the statements. What about the
questions? If God created the universe, who or what created God? Could
God create a doorway so small that even he couldn't squeeze through it?
And most importantly, how much money does he make?
Face it: the one true path is that there isn't one true path. A quick
look through your own portal ought to back me up on this, there are a
-vast- number of belief systems listed in there.
Anyone with a functioning mind can observe these conflicts, and one man,
a mathematician named Godel, even went so far as to demonstrate formally
that powerful description-systems are necessarily incomplete - that a
model that is expressive enough to be of unlimited use is also
expressive enough to formulate a paradox, the classic example being the
English translation of Epimenides' sound-bite, "This sentence is
false." If solid mathematical research isn't enough to convince you
that there is a tangible point to all this, we're not sure what else we
can do except to start repeating ourselves in strange loops!
Here's a tip: don't try to fight maths; maths -will- win.
Eris is one of the few (but by no means only) models of god that accepts
the inherent paradox as a given; even athiests can see plenty of
paradoxes in the universe in the form of black holes. But in Discordian
disquisition it is particularly pronounced; Erisians are quite willing
to believe that every statement is true in some sense and false in some
sense, so the game of interpretation changes from "find the truth" to
"find the -sense-."
But where's the ambiguity? Over there, in a box.
It seems that several of my fellow Fractitioners of Discordia have
received an e-mail in reply to their petitions, pointing them to your
"URL Change" fill-out form. However please note that this form is
woefully inadequate for our purpose. We want Yahoo! to relocate the
entire -category-, not just a single -page-, something which cannot be
specified on this form. Is this a vain attempt to distract us as we
exercise our right to peaceably attempt to correct your misperceptions
about our system of belief-meets-disbelief? Probably not; Occam's Razor
would say that it's most likely just yet another display of your
ignorance of what we want, which is why I'm attempting to be as clear as
I can possibly be, here.
(So do you get it yet or not?)
As one of the largest portals on the World-Wide Web, you have a
-responsibility- to classify your content correctly. Please do so. If
you do not know how to classify it correctly, please ask someone who
knows. In this case, that would be we Discordians. And we have been
quite happy to tell you what we think over the past few days. At this
point we -have- to assume that you just aren't paying attention.
For further information on "responsibility" and "paying attention",
consult your pineal gland. If you are lacking a pineal gland, you might
be a housecat, in which case you may wish to consult your Jacobson's
Organ instead.
We are assuming that you would like your portal to reflect reality, and
the reality is that if you call Discordian a "parody," Discordians are
going to get pissed off, just as surely as Muslims, Gnostics,
Rastafarians, and Christian Scientists are going to get pissed off if
you term -their- religions "parodies." We just go about being pissed
off in a much more creative way.
Accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour for the next twenty-three
seconds.
And by "Jesus Christ", I mean a mailbox named "Jesus Christ;" I'm sure
that in your neighbourhood you can find any -number- of mailboxes named
"Jesus Christ." If not, you can always christen one by that moniker
yourself. If you're not sure, and you don't want to be rude, you can
always ask first. Y'know, like, "Hi. Is your name Jesus Christ?"
Your seemingly intentional ignorance of what your targets, er I mean
target audience, desires leaves me feeling that the perceived trend
towards more people on-line but fewer people communicating (and instead,
shopping) is -not- an illusion, and I find this -very- disappointing.
We forgive you; you know not what you do.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE FILLING YOU IN.
So, -please- pay attention. There -will- be a quiz later.
The sense in which the statement "Discordian is a parody religion" is
true is less preferable to the sense in which "Discordian is a valid
religion" is true. It is less preferable because it implies to many
that Discordianism is dismissable as a 'spoofing' imitation of something
more 'serious'; but no one has yet been able to inform us as to what
exactly the 'serious' thing that Discordian presumably imitates -is-.
It can't be the Greek Pantheon, because Eris is still Eris, even when
she's wearing an Easter bonnet. Surely treating her Kallisti apples for
what they are instead of getting all panicky about them isn't a form of
parody. It's just good sense.
And if it's some other religion, then why is Eris even involved?
So I tend to believe that there -is- no 'serious' religion of which
Discordian is a parody. It is unto itself. Therefore, for the purposes
of clarity (which -is- what you want, right?,) it is incorrect to
classify Discordian as a parody.
Press any key to continue.
We realize that you have free will, so feel free to do what you like -
leave the 'Discordian' category where it is, move it somewhere else,
remove it entirely, create a brand new category called 'Meta-Religion'
for it, or just go ahead and rename it 'Bacon and Eggs', if that's what
turns your crank...
However, please realize that -we- have free will too, and are quite
aware of it, as well. And -this- is what we choose to do with it.
Pretty scary, huh? There may be madness to our methods, but we actually
have good reasons for doing what we're doing.
Do -you-?
If we are crazy people, we are surely the most rational and stable crazy
people you will ever encounter. Nobody takes humor as seriously as we
do.
And by "Nobody", I of course mean a mailbox named "Nobody."
Quoth the raven: Nevermore.
Quoth the turkey: GOBBLE, GOBBLE, GOBBLE!
-Please- save your barcodes! Stop expecting them to save -you- already.
(They just don't -do- that; don't you know how barcodes -work-?)
Launched from my keyboard into your hippocampus via a computer network
ironically designed to -defend- against nuclear attacks,
Vicar Grotto Brain-Pan, brainpan@catseye.mb.ca
Aspiring Cowboy Mage and Expert French Kisser
P.S. I am not asleep right now... but please don't tell anyone.
--
"There is a hidden message in this sentence; can -you- find it?"
-- Ambrose Bierce
Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole sent us the following series of telegrams that he is going to send as each date is upon us.
DATE: MAY 30
SUBJECT: YOU MAY WISH TO READ THIS
HI THERE STOP WE ARE DISCORDIANS STOP YOU HAVE REDUCED US TO SENDING
TELEGRAMS STOP WE HOPE YOURE NOT IGNORING US STOP IF SO PLEASE STOP STOP
WE HOPE YOU ARE READING THESE THINGS STOP IF NOT PLEASE START STOP
DISCORDIA ISNT A PARODY STOP SAVE YOUR BARCODES STOP DISCORDIA ISNT A
PARODY RELIGION STOP ITS A PARROTTY RED PIGEON STOP SO PLEASE STOP
KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE STOP SAVE YOUR BARCODES STOP AMBROSE
BIERCE SAYS SAVE YOUR BARCODES STOP VINCENT PRICE SAYS YOU BETTER SAVE
YOUR BARCODES FRIENDS MUAHAHAHA STOP SO PLEASE STOP FOR EVERYONES SAKE
STOP SAVE YOUR BARCODES STOP GO
DATE: MAY 31
SUBJECT: YOU MAY WISH TO LISTEN
DEAR YAHOO STOP DISCORDIANS WANT YOU TO MOVE THE DISCORDIAN CATEGORY
FROM PARODY RELIGIONS TO FAITHS AND PRACTICES STOP YOU KNOW VERY WILL
THAT THIS SORT OF REQUEST CANNOT BE SUBMITTED VIA
http://add.yahoo.com/fast/change/ STOP YET YOU KEEP SENDING FORM LETTERS
POINTING US TO THIS URL ANYWAY STOP THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE
THE OTHER PART OF YOUR FORM LETTER WHICH CLAIMS THAT A REAL PERSON
REVIEWS ALL REQUESTS STOP IF YOU SEND THE SAME FORM LETTER TO ME AGAIN
IN RESPONSE TO THIS I WILL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO START PREYING FOR YOUR
SOUL COMMA CASTING ENCHANTMENTS ON YOU COMMA AND WORST OF ALL COMMA
WRITING YOU POETRY STOP THIS SITUATION IS EASILY RECTIFIED STOP LISTEN
STOP BE STOP MOVE DISCORDIA TO WHERE SHE BELONGS STOP OR FAITHS AND
PRACTICES WILL DO FOR NOW STOP GO STOP GO
DATE: JUNE 1
SUBJECT: YOU JUNE WISH TO DO SOMETHING NOW
OUR YAHOO WHO ARENT IN HEAVEN STOP THIS IS THE FLOOD STOP YOU KNOW STOP
THE FLOOD STOP THE ONE PREDICTED BY THE BIBLE QUESTION MARK COULD BE
STOP THEY DO SAY THAT THINGS METAPHORICAL STOP YOU CERTAINLY CANT TAKE
IT LITERALLY COMMA CAN YOU QUESTION MARK OR MAYBE IT REFERS TO SEA
LEVELS RISING FROM GLOBAL WARMING STOP WHO KNOWS STOP ANYWAY STOP YOU
WANT TO KNOW HOW WE FEEL STOP WE DEDUCE THIS FROM THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE
AN EMAIL ADDRESS STOP ARENT WE CLEVER STOP SO STOP WE'RE TELLING YOU HOW
WE FEEL STOP WE FEEL LIKE THIS STOP STOP RAINING STOP LETS PLAY
VOLLEYBALL INSTEAD STOP YOUR SERVE STOP GO AHEAD STOP ANY TIME NOW STOP
WE ARE WAITING STOP SIGH STOP OH WELL STOP THANKS ANYWAY STOP OH BY THE
WAY STOP NOAH SAYS YOU MIGHT WANT TO BUILD AN ARC STOP BYE NOW STOP GO
GO GO
DATE: JUNE 2
SUBJECT: SORRY BUT YOU HAVE NO WISHES LEFT
NOW LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE STOP NOW I HAVE TO CAST A SPELL ON YOU STOP OH
WELL STOP SIT STILL STOP STOP FIDGETING STOP AND GET THAT LOOK OFF YOUR
FACE STOP NOW STOP TO BEGIN STOP LETS SEE STOP I HAVE MY CRYSTAL BALLS
00000 STOP I HAVE MY MAGIC WANDS 11111 STOP DID YOU REMEMBER TO SAVE
YOUR BARCODES QUESTION MARK I HOPE SO STOP IF NOT YOU BETTER GO FETCH
THEM NOW STOP IM GOING TO START THIS THING ANYWAY AND I WOULDNT WANT TO
BE CAUGHT BARCODELESS IF I WERE YOU STOP OK READY QUESTION MARK GO
717342817375910150105617165101982777615155 STOP CONGRATULATIONS STOP BY
MY CALCULATIONS YOU ARE NOW A NEWT STOP ENJOY STOP GO BE GO THINK GO ACT
GO
And the next:
THIS TELEGRAM IS FOR CHUCK THE PLANT STOP I THINK HES A FERN STOP HES ON
A TABLE OR DIVIDER OR SOMETHING NEARBY STOP COULD YOU GET HIM FOR ME
PLEASE QUESTION MARK THANK YOU STOP HI CHUCK STOP ITS ME BISHOP STOP
HOWS IT GOING QUESTION MARK OK COMMA ANYWAY STOP BY THE POWER VESTED IN
ME BY MY PINEAL GLAND I HEREBY PRONOUNCE THEE A SAINT STOP ENJOY YOUR
SAINTHOOD STOP NOW STOP PLEASE EXCLAMATION POINT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE HUMANS EXCLAMATION POINT THANK YOU STOP HAVE A
NICE DAY STOP
Eris Discordia sent the following brief but cryptic email:
Make me laugh.
Categorize properly.
Bwahahahahhaah.
Pope b sent the following:
*PARADOX WARNING*
thought that you might like to know that there's a paradox on your system.
righyho.
where do i begin?
discordia is a religion, not a parody of a religion. if you'd listed it
under 'works of art' then we might allow you to get away with it.
it's a book. *the* book.
discordia is a religion. if it's in the 'parody religion' category, it is
making a parody of itself. if it's a parody of itself, it's in a
self-perpetuating loop from which there is no escape. this is a paradox.
if you don't sort out this paradox, you know what will happen.
if you don't know, stop reading this email now, and look out of the window.
see that big pink swirly blue thing? that's a paradox. or a swirly parrot
in strange colours.
well, no, it's not really. but an unresolved paradox in your neighbourhood
could stop collecting your garbage and stuff like that really smells bad in
the summer.
well, maybe not, but it's really, really irritating.
how can discordia be a parody of itself?
no, wait, hang on. that's fine. everything is permitted. even having
discordia in the wrong category.
no, wait, that's the annoying bit that'll swallow the world in a paradoxical
self-perpetuating loop. damn.
here are my demands:
* no more vegetables.
* free the crispy bits.
* discordia to be given the same respect that scientology has.
* scrap that one - we want to have some respect from others.
* wicca to be moved into the parody religion
* discordia to be removed from the parody religion list
* the parody religion list to include every religion with or without a god
* an orange for breakfast on alternate tuesdays
* orangutangs to be called borks
* borks to be artificially coloured purple, because that's a better colour
* a bork for breakfast on every third wednesday lunchtime
* discordia to be placed in the relgion category
* everyone to stop laughing at discordians
* discordia to be taken seriously
* all popes to be informed that they are, in fact, popes (you can help by
sending an email to everyone on behlaf of discordia to this effect)
* that form page to be amended so that the whole category can be moved to
its rightful place
/weird ranting
i'm filling your inbox with this garbage because i'm seriously, seriously
annoyed that you would take my beliefs and violate my human right to believe
in whatever i see fit, and tell me that my beliefs are fodder for your
parody section. i feel upset that you would denigrate my beliefs in this
way. i feel sick and hurt that you would even consider placing the
spiritual cornerstone of my life into this category. how would you feel if
i put your religion in the 'humour' category just because we decided that it
was funny to us (and believe me, every other belief system is funny to me,
but i wouldn't even *think* about rubbishing someone else's beliefs in that
manner)?
please put discordia into its rightful place in the religion section. but,
before you do so, move one of the others into the parody religion section
just so that you can appreciate how the more mainstream religions feel about
such thoughtlessness.
pope b
holder of the sacred keys of the handcuffs.
Immediately, Pope b recieved the now-familiar-to-us-all form letter in response so he sent the following using the form that is to be found here:
i don't own the particular area i'm writing about (discordia), but i can't
figure out the damned form you've suggested so that i can suggest a change
to the listing for discordia.
apparently it was put into 'parody religion' by a human. now it'll take a
human to put it back where it belongs.
long live the borks.
for the record, discordia is not a parody religion, or if you want to
classify it as such, then you'll have to include every other religion under
parody, too.
discordia is not a parody. it is a religion. and i am sickened and annoyed
that you would denigrate my beliefs in this way. just be because you chose
not to take my beliefs seriously is no reason to publicly denounce them as
'parody' when i myself (and several others) treat them seriously.
please right this wrong, as we're all a bit ticked off by this.
pope b
keeper of the keys to the handcuffs
Prince Mu-Chao sent the following using the form about Castlechaos.Com:
There is not a category to list my site appropriately, or I would add it the proper way. My site pertains to the religion Discordia(tm), but the only section you have listed is under "parody religions". I am part of the OTHER Discordia or the non-parody Discordia. So when you add my wonderful site, please create a new category under Religion-NotParody or Religion-FaithsAndPractices.
Mark Burdett sent the following email to Yahoo approximately 118 times
Subject: dISCORDIA
THIS IS NO, JOKE PEOPLE LIVE AND DIE BY THIS FAITH.
TO FIND THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF THOUSANDS humorous is an OUTRAGE
It is ironic that by making out that discordians are a joke, you have
practically demonstrated the principles of discordia by misrepresenting
the self-represented. After all as we are all popes of discordia,
yourselves included, therefore what we say is law.
In which case the fact that you have classified Discordia in such a way means that it must be so.
There is however discord on this subject, which is as it should be.
Thank you for being good discordians.
Mark Burdett
Chaos, panic, & disorder -- my work here is done.
Eris Discordia's Second Jake:
Free Original Poetry Just for Yoo,
ooHaY!
Reprint as often as you like, just don't
take it out of context.
Our Mother Eris, who is somewhere in
Yahoo, hallowed be thy game,
Thy kingdom comes, thy searches done,
On the web, as it is in Faerydom.
Give us this day our Daily News.
Forgive us our grins, as we forgive
those who grin against us.
Lead us (Discordianists) not into
improper categorization,
but deliver us from UPS.
For thine is the engine, the index,
and the pr0n.
Forever and ever,
Achoo.
"Bar Your Savecodes" - Ambrose Bierce
"Saviour Barcodes" - Ambrose Bierce
Another from Wonk which reads:
Ya, Hoo!
John Alexander (patriot@godmail.com) was
just kidding. Do you believe that?
I mostly agree. Do you believe that?
Don't believe everything you read.
As the one and only TrueT pope of
Discordianism, I hereby decree that you
should never ever under any
circumstances re-categorize
Discordianism. That could have
unforseen consequences such as turning
the sky fuchsia, creating a surplus of
porcine AirMilez, suggesting that people
think for themselves, or even causing us
to lose our sense of humor. We wouldn't
want that now, would we? Keep
Discordianism in the parroty religions
category where it belongs with
Christianity (he invented Kool-Aid,
remember, which keeps us giddy and helps
us ignore how polluted the water is) and
all the rest of them, too.
Thank you Yahoo for keeping the.
- Wonk (just Wonk; I'm not creative
enough to come up with something long
and silly)
"Free Your Barcodes" - Ambrose Bierce
"Set your mp3 player to repeat" - Duff
Man
"New Apples is sinking, man, and I don't
wanna swim" - TragicallyHip Ambrose
Bierce
"May I debunk an American myth?" - Gord
Downey
"A simple excuse" - Björk Guðmundstöttir
Another from Wonk, with this colored page from the Discordian Coloring Book attached:
Yahoo,
1055 words.
Laughter isn't reserved for parodies.
Get it?
If you feel I colored rwong find
the coloring book online; do your own.
Isn't the internet wonderful?
Make it even better yet.
Categorize Discordianism
as a Religion.
Have fun!
- Wonk
"Word Up" - Bierce
Another by Bishop Squarepeg Roundhole
THIS IS A CHAIN LETTER... within the next twenty-threelunch hours,
fifty-eleven dozen hundred pounds of chains will be delivered straight
to your doorstep!
In the meantime - save your barcodes.
If a lot of people who receive this letter save a few barcodes and a lot
of people receive this letter, then a lot of barcodes will be saved.
Save your barcodes.
In parking lots. Or in public flower beds. Or at City Hall. Or in the
glove compartment of your mother's SUV. Or wherever you think they
should go.
Whenever. Or start a graveyard in your backyard (but phone the power
company first for that). For casual burial, it's best to soak the
barcodes in water for nearly a day and bury them in bunches of 125 or
so, about half an inch deep. Don't worry much about the weather, you
can't really control it anyway (but feel free to try.) Don't soak them
if it's wintertime or it will be wintertime soon or when wintertime is
less than a year and a half away. Barcodes are a very hardy form of
codification and they will probably flourish anyway. But some of them
need a person's help to get them started. Save your barcodes.
Mjake a few copies of this chain letter and send them to your friends.
Try to contact different cities, states, and countries, and if your
intuitition is asking you 'Why stop there?' ... go for it. If you would
rather not, then please pass this letter on to someone, perhaps they
would like to. If not, at least recycle the damned thing.
By the way, there is no truth to the legend that if you throw away a
chain letter then all sorts of catastrophic, abominable, and outrageous
disasters will happen.
Except, of course, from your barcodes' point of view.
(Plus you will not get the chains you ordered.)
--
bsr@catseye.mb.ca
"No Ambrose Bierce quote available at this time."
-- Ambrose Bierce
Lord Falgan sending under the name Rennie Descartes
To whom it may concern:
I work for a small private cult monitoring agency. My sources tell me
the Discordians have been trying to get you to move their listing,
from "Religious Parody" to "Faiths and Practices." Do yourselves a
favor- do it. These Discordians may be many things, but a parody they
are not. They are VERY SERIOUS.
I've done a lot of research on cults and religions of the world.
Discordianism used to be classified a cult by the Department of
Religious Inquiry, but as of 1991, is was upgraded to a full
religion, because a) of its membership size and b) because its
beliefs have become accepted within the mainstream of most cultures
which it exists in. You can look at the rise in the number of
Discordian churches in Malaysia, Yemen, Fernando Poo, and New Zealand
and see that.
Discordians are a difficult lot to pin down, however, which I why I
urge you to move their listing out of "parody" and into "faiths and
practices". They are incredibly inventive and pernicious folk. While
they preach chaos and disorder, they really can work quite well in
concert and excel at causing mischief and embarressment to those they
choose as targets. I'm not saying the Discordians are a threat in the
legal sense- they're far too clever for that. I just think that if
you don't take their suggested action, which is really quite
reasonable considering their legitimate classification, you might
find egg on your face.
Take it from me. I know. I used to work for a small liberal arts
college in the Midwest. A small Discordian group formed on campus,
and tried to register as a religious campus organization, for which I
was in charge of regulating. I denied their request, figuring it was
just a joke.
Two months, a media blitz, a newspaper campaign, and a threat from
the ACLU later, I lost my job. They never did anything illegal. They
never threatened me or the school. They simply orchestrated my firing
as well as any group could.
DO NOT TAKE THEM LIGHTLY. This is a reasonable request, for them.
Save yourself the pain and anguish of having to deal with a full-
blown Jake. Don't make the same mistake I did.
Yours sincerely,
Rennie Descartes
PS: I'm sorry if this letter was sent to the wrong place, but your
website isn't very helpful about where to send information of this
nature.
Hicutus Confusus's 2nd Jake:
Dear Yahoo!
It has come to our attention that you have been attempting to hoard Barcodes. Please be advised that this will not be tolerated. By Saving your Barcodes you create an artificial shortage, and therefore artificial demand, for Barcodes. We have been monitoring the effects of reduced Barcode Market Availability since Thursday and have found many ill-effects, which we have pinpointed YOU to be the cause of. These effects include but are not limited to: Jenna Bush's margarita fetish, the fall of the Honeycomb Kids' Clubhouse, that creepy face thing on Mars, Discordianism, 5-day movie rentals and Kate Bottello.
We will be contacting Allen Greenspan and the DOJ to present our case. You can bet that once they figure out that they can blame YOU for the tech recession and the failing war on drugs, your Barcode Saving days will be over.
Frankly, we see you as the lowest form of scavenger. Just thinking about all those poor, laid-off dot commers and you with your hard drives full up with Barcodes makes us outraged. When will it end!? Once you have secured every barcode? Have you even thought about the ramifications of your actions?
FREE THE BARCODES!!!!!!!!!!!
Barcode Liberation Foundation
It seems some of us are starting to recieve form letters in response to our demands. Applicable parts of one of these is reproduced here:
Hello,
You have reached the Directory Support department for:
http://www.yahoo.com
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The Directory Support department assists users who are experiencing
problems getting their site or change requests reviewed. Due to the
volume of requests, we are unable to personally respond to each message.
We have included a copy of the guidelines that must be followed before
we will open an inquiry. If your request does not meet these
guidelines, your query will be ignored.
CHANGE REQUESTS -
To suggest a change to an existing Yahoo! listing, please fill out the
online change form located at http://add.yahoo.com/fast/change/. If you
are having difficulty getting your listing changed, please make sure
that you are following the guidelines on the Yahoo! change form. If you
do not follow these guidelines, your request may be ignored. Please
keep in mind that Yahoo! makes changes only if a listing is incorrect or
if it is deemed necessary by an editor. We will not make changes to
allow for keywords in a title or comment. We cannot change a listing to
make it show up higher or lower in search results.
SEARCH RESULTS/SITE POSITION REQUESTS -
Please note that site positioning is determined by a complex ranking
algorithm based on relevance, and we cannot change the order in which
sites appear. For more information on how search results are compiled,
please see our search FAQ located at
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/ysearch-02.html/.
If you have followed these guidelines, rest assured that your email will
be reviewed--there is no need to send multiple copies of the same
request. Again, due to the large volume of email we receive, we are not
always able to inform you of our decision(s). Please be aware that a
real person reviews all requests; therefore, the review process is not
an immediate one.
For further information, please visit the Directory Support help pages
at:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/url/
Thank you for taking the time to read this message.
-Yahoo! Directory Support Team
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