http://www.23ae.comDiscordian Lojinx At Bargain Prices!Kopyleft (K) 23AE - All rights reversed. http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5233 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5233 Isn't there a little irony here? People are completely upset because a 15-year-old female shows her back, but there's virtually no flack when a senior citizen makes plans to show everyone what she looks like naked? Tue, 13 May 2008 17:23:02 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5232 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5232 She is if she wants to be. Great photo, by the way. Tue, 13 May 2008 17:12:51 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5231 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5231 Eris is a 15 year ld girl? Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:13 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5230 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5230 the goddess lives! http://flickr.com/photos/himitsuhana/2240400266/in/set-72157603825472560/ or maybe she is un-dead. either way... Tue, 13 May 2008 09:38:33 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5229 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5229 The annual discordian pride parade! I'll be wearing the ass-less leather chaps!! Mon, 12 May 2008 13:02:57 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5228 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5228 I heard KallistiCon is just an excuse for a Discordian orgy. Sign me up! Mon, 12 May 2008 05:06:55 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5227 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5227 So where do I get one of those big girls 23? Mon, 12 May 2008 05:05:54 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5226 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5226 Now good old Hugh Hefner wants Miley Cyrus to pose nude for Playboy. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4523540a5620.html Mon, 12 May 2008 05:04:14 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5225 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5225 You know what gets me Prof. Cram? Those bastard aliens that are disguised as 1980's people. . . They own yuo! What do you people think the Rickroll Meme was based on? That's right ... Aliens. Straight. Sun, 11 May 2008 23:26:57 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5224 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5224 I was doing a search for miley cyrus discordia to see how far MileyGASM had spread, and I ended up here: http://whatawonderfullvideo.com/str/?id=3913044 WARNING: THIS IS DEFINITELY NSFW! (If you don't know what that means, don't visit this site when you're at work, unless you sell porn videos) Sun, 11 May 2008 19:43:12 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5223 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5223 I heard this message in a public toilet stall at Deer Creek Station in 1871 when I was servicing myself: 'If at least 10 people attend KallistiCon 2008, on that weekend I will not destroy the world. I promise.' -- E. D. Sun, 11 May 2008 19:38:11 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5222 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5222 I'm going to go wear purple underwear on my head. Sun, 11 May 2008 19:33:47 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=413#c5221 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=413#c5221 Who is the person we see? Sun, 11 May 2008 19:33:14 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5220 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=419#c5220 I read the whole thing. This is some crazy dope peoples. Read it! Sun, 11 May 2008 19:32:30 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5219 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5219 I'd love to go to KallistiCon if only to meet the woman who made Reverend Loveshade her slave. By the way, the rest of the message looked normal in my email, but came out really weird when I pasted it here: Swanky r nxf ep suo lic cxk a ti dpe me p nqo ie fe ce poh s, ele tds gant ke fuf ycha yc ins, lig stg hte rx rs and p ti en rfs s, and much more are now available at absolutely competitive pri kw ces! Sun, 11 May 2008 19:16:59 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5218 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5218 Tomorrow I just got this email (yes, it's dated by tomorrow's date): Christmas wouldn't be merry without presents! Show your love and gratitude to your nearest and dearest people with the best quality gifts available on the internet! Is it Christmas in July already? Sun, 11 May 2008 19:15:05 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5217 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=418#c5217 Shame that I live so far away! Sun, 11 May 2008 12:14:07 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5216 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5216 Whales, keep offshore! Sun, 11 May 2008 07:24:22 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5215 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5215 I'll spank any willing butt, guaranteed. And maybe a few unwilling ones. Sat, 10 May 2008 11:24:19 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5214 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5214 Yea, Princesses, you know that because I told you! Expect five spankings each the next time I see you! And the link has been posted by "we." I didn't know I lived in the plural. P. S. I love you both! Sat, 10 May 2008 11:23:05 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5213 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5213 We know what that is they're going to KallistiCon! It's June 20 to 22 and we might go too! I think we're posting a link to the site this weekend so look for it! Fri, 9 May 2008 23:07:25 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5212 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5212 What about girls with big butts? Fri, 9 May 2008 23:05:39 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5211 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5211 The guy in this video is weird. But we like the one with the green hair! lol j/k Fri, 9 May 2008 23:04:31 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5210 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5210 Yeah MileyGASM! Its all over the Internet that Miley Cyrus is a Discordian American Princess! I was made one by Icarus 23 whos Mark Steele and Reverend Loveshade made Yoshikyoko one. Now we've made Miley one. Hail Discordia and Harmonia! Fri, 9 May 2008 23:03:31 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5209 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5209 om crommunamngrasanfugimicalisticat hngiggigiig kalaashticalpnewfagushit! Twiggity by damn it! Fri, 9 May 2008 15:46:15 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5208 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5208 In closing, I want to sum up my opinions. You know, for the record... -I don't think the vanity fair pictures are offensive or crude or pornographic or anything. They're pretty innocent. -I am, however, disgusted with the societal alchemy which transforms the innocent into sexual objects with or without their consent. Let them choose to be sexual object if they want. But there are tons of 15 year old girls out there that aren't ready for older people to be flirting with them. One of the things that facilitates this is a sex-crazed media. One of the ways to change this is to speak out against it. -I've enjoyed this discussion. -I also jerked off to it. Which means you're all SICK. :-) Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:16 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5207 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5207 Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart wearin purple WEAARIN PURRRPLEEEEEE !!!!! Fri, 9 May 2008 06:01:32 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5206 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5206 lol work problem free fer meeee and what have you oh and " Read only if you like big girls - 23" didnt really work for me, though i didnt use quotes..... was i sposed ta? Thu, 8 May 2008 18:44:54 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5205 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5205 I just sat on a spoon. Thu, 8 May 2008 00:09:16 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5204 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5204 Speaking of Gods and Goddesses, does this picture really depict the Goddess sisters Eris-Discordia, Aneris-Harmonia, and their brother Spirituality? If so, who is who? Wed, 7 May 2008 23:29:08 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=413#c5203 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=413#c5203 Let us know the results of your experiment. I often wonder what people think. By the way, did you know that your eyes never truly blink? You're always looking at us. Now that's cool. Wed, 7 May 2008 23:22:21 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5202 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=417#c5202 I don't know, but when I just went there it called me "Interwebs Goon." By the way, you might want to do an Internet search for the phrase " Read only if you like big girls - 23" Why you should search for that I don't know, but Goddess Eris told me if I didn't post this message she wouldn't spank me. Wed, 7 May 2008 22:11:24 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5201 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5201 Cramulus (or whoever else cares): I haven't gotten a response yet. Would be interested to get one, if it's not some pre-recorded dookie. Wed, 7 May 2008 22:05:06 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5200 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5200 I'm not too old to be obsessing over anything, Comment 4. I might have been too old last year, though. I did use the ODNS, Zen version, Comment 8. No, I didn't say I wrote this, Comment 11. I am not offended, Comment 15. You aren't a virgin because of me, Comment 17. The Miley Cyrus Jake has begun, Comment 19. I was arrested as an FDLS pastor, Comment 22 and 23? Why doesn't anyone ever tell me these things? Can a Jakee get Jaked, Comment 26? Nice Rant, Comment 27. Although I only agree with the bad parts. Great Jake, Comment 38. It may not actually have been the Puritans who started the "Protect Our Children to the Point of Paranoia" thing. But yeah, you're right--parents did it while their children were with them, just like animals still do all over Planet Earth. Comment 46, here's an original thought: President Bush flew a chocolate eclair plane through Doctor Who's left nostril while Minnie Rae danced on his left earlobe. I bet that's never been thought before. Are there Sockpuppets here, Comment 42? That is so Greyface! Greg Hill, Robert Anton Wilson and Kerry Thornley never did things under other names, now did they? I want to have Comment 47s baby. Wed, 7 May 2008 22:01:33 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5199 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5199 Agreed. Rev. Voodoo - There may not b3 any original thoughts, but i did send in a couple to Pimp My Thought. Ratatosk - You're absolutely correct, we are all human and bound to be prudes once in a while. I may have been a bit too accusatory, a little too harsh and a bit silly with my previous posts, but I did so because I do see that our basic freedoms have been going out of style lately. Besides, everyone is a Discordian Pope whether they know it or not. E Pluribus Pluribus Wed, 7 May 2008 19:39:33 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5198 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=316#c5198 Holy Shit... Holy Shit! They have Psyonetiks on a T-shirt now? Rampant profiteering bastards! http://psyonetiks.co.uk/clothing.html We did make some infomercials .. but no one will play them. We cut them down to podcasts instead. . . Wed, 7 May 2008 19:15:04 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5197 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5197 I find that often, as much as we like to think that we think for ourselves... we find those pesky bars of our Black Iron Prison still getting in the way. In a different time, Molly would be a Mommy at age 15. In that same different time, NO ONE, no matter what their age was would have posed for such a picture. Even without push up bras, without thongs, without ASS HANGING OUT, TITS FALLING OUT Paris Hilton is my Idol style clothing... lots of guys were actively fucking 15 year olds, with the approval of society. Now society disapproves. Well, they claim to, while dressing their kids up like street walkers. I don't give a fuck if Molly Cyrus posed naked, it's her goddess blessed life, let her do as she will. Who the FUCK are we to say that it IS right or IS wrong... the actual picture isn't even all that sexy. However, we live in a society developed by prudes and our Black Iron Prison's foundations were laid long before we learned to thing for ourselves. So sometimes, the Greyface that hides inside of us all, popping out clad in Buckled Hat, Buckled Shoes and burning stakes at the ready. Doesn't mean that those people arent Discordian, or don't think for themselves... it just means we are, all of us, occasionally Cosmic Schmucks. Hail Miley Ray Cyrus, Discordian Saint! Wed, 7 May 2008 10:58:15 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5196 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5196 NWC: I think you may have to be high to get it. Or maybe I am just too old. Wed, 7 May 2008 07:30:17 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5195 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5195 Lebowski re: comment 31 -- they should outlay tuesdays. Re: comment 41 -- what is more sexy than a turtle neck. Re: comment 35 -- I didn't apologize for when I was 8 and I made my little brother have to be my personal slave. This entire thing is fucking retarded. It is a bunch of over-sensationalized bullshit. Once again I am betting that (re: my comment 26 -- Annie Leibowitz is a Discordian and Miley got jaked.) btw: you all do realize that there is no orignal thought anymore right? All the thoughts you have had been had by someone else? Philosophy 101? Case-in-point: "My First Vibrator" http://www.vibrators.com/v13388.html "It's a crazy world. Someone ought to sell tickets." Wed, 7 May 2008 07:18:38 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5194 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5194 The Miley Ray Cyrus-Discordia connection is now all over the Internet. Can't wait til Miley "Minnie Rae" Ray Cyrus makes a comment herself. Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Tue, 6 May 2008 20:38:40 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5193 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5193 Dearest Goddesses: I am very sorry that you shunned Goddess Eris on your website. As she is the goddess of fun, you must be feeling pretty miserable right now. Invite her in and be happy. But just don't let her alone with the apple cider. Tue, 6 May 2008 20:37:22 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5192 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5192 You missed two. Disney-Discordia. Both Dis. And I just saw that you can see The Tales of Shamlicht number 537 in the Miley Cyrus' sheet. Tue, 6 May 2008 20:35:15 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5191 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5191 watch the hole series, it's wholy incredible. http://www12.alluc.org/alluc/tv-shows.html?action=getviewcategory&category_uid=814&from=M everybody look at the moon. Tue, 6 May 2008 07:50:03 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5190 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5190 I've been hearing about this video from friends for a very long time now, and never got around to watching it. I had high expectations, but I actually found it boring and a bit trite. oh well Mon, 5 May 2008 11:38:16 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5189 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5189 R.I.P Reverend Albert Hofmann.. Kallisti! Mon, 5 May 2008 07:47:36 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5188 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5188 Mmmm. Fishy! Sun, 4 May 2008 23:09:26 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=412#c5187 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=412#c5187 Nyum nom nom nom! tasty. Sun, 4 May 2008 00:04:29 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5186 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5186 So... what if I find turtle neck sweaters and loose fitting jeans sexy? Or what if I find a nice pair of sneakers sexy? The only way to ensure that no one will find a particular pose or picture sexual is to not take it in the first place... so I say we ban the entire field of photography and burn anyone who professes to be a photographer as a heretic. :-) Sat, 3 May 2008 23:32:07 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5185 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5185 The photographer was a woman. But you're right, let's keep sex in the closet where it belongs. No more porn, nudity, nudism, underwear ads, homosexuality, polyamory, kissing or anything else in public where people can see it. Let's go back to teaching children that babies are brought by the stork. After all, studies show that, in 85% of all cases, seeing a teen girl's back leads to rape. Sat, 3 May 2008 22:58:09 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5184 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5184 Here's another video: Nanny saves coyote from toddler attack in California http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=7657893&src=news Sat, 3 May 2008 22:54:51 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5183 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5183 "What happened to Miley Cyrus is that she took a nice photo and then knee-jerk reactionary idiots decided to raise hell about it." -- All I'm saying is: yes, I'm a reactionary idiot and I'm hoping I can get some HTML formatting to work here... The reaction to Miley, et al, seems to belong to several schools of thought: 1. The pedos are exploiting their innocence. (Children are not sexual, they're "innocent".) 2. Slut-shaming. (Children should not be sexual, therefore she's immoral.) And, by "several schools of thought" I really mean "same shit, different bogeyman". So, let's go with another train of thought: 3. Children are sexual, and should keep the matter private until they learn enough to engage others responsibly and resist coercion. 3b. Adults should be responsible enough by now to police themselves. Applying rule (3), the only question is: was it her idea, or did the photographer pressure her into the wardrobe/pose? And, of course, applying (3b), the photographer should be shot regardless, because he didn't burn the damn negative. Sat, 3 May 2008 22:47:58 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5182 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5182 JAKE ALERT: This site is so open for a Jake. It's http://www.teensagainstporn.com/index.php . I don't know know if that will make a direct link so someone make one. It says Are you addicted to pornography? It's a simple question. Are you? Have you ever decided to stop? Yeah, so have we. How long did it last for you? Have you ever had any of the following thoughts: Maybe if I just prayed more, God would take it away. Maybe if I really meant it, I would be able to keep my promise. Maybe when I get married, I won't need it anymore. Maybe God will give up on me, and I'll lose my salvation. Am I the only one trapped in this sin? Sat, 3 May 2008 22:19:19 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5181 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5181 Somebody suggesting doing a search for miley cyrus discord. I did and got over 4,000 sites. Might be a clue. Sat, 3 May 2008 22:00:25 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5180 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5180 This video is an example of translithospheric-hydrospheric transsexual transpecism. Thus I give it a rating of W. Sat, 3 May 2008 21:58:14 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5179 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5179 The concept that children should be isolated from sex is a new one in human history, and was began by the Puritans, folks. And as someone said, anyone who thinks that 15 year olds don't think about sex doesn't remember what it's like to be 15. Or 14, 13, 12, 11.... By the way, how old were you when you started masturbating? I was 5 years old. Sat, 3 May 2008 21:55:39 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5178 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5178 i havewhat i like to call a vagenis Sat, 3 May 2008 21:36:15 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5177 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5177 source: dead by they might be giants Sat, 3 May 2008 16:01:45 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5176 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5176 I disagree. The shelves will continue their plight of pedophilia until they're nuked, while we observe the option to remove ourselves from the shelves before that occurs. Sat, 3 May 2008 16:01:02 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5175 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5175 No no, let me clarify before you continue to misunderstand me and paint me to be someone a hell of a lot less open minded than I am... it's not because they didn't arrive at the same conclusion, but because there weren't any well thought out replies until now... and plus the let's blame the media/society so that we don't have to do anything argument tends to irk me a tad bit. So, we started this thread talking about poor Miley Cyrus and now we've come to the Dora Dildo... I would assume you're not saying they are one and the same. What happened to Miley Cyrus is that she took a nice photo and then knee-jerk reactionary idiots decided to raise hell about it. The above pictured Dora Dildo is obviously digusting and will hopefully be removed from the shelves. Sat, 3 May 2008 13:27:07 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5174 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5174 clarify 'cause I got confused: are you saying that 23ae is full of cabbages because they didn't arrive at the same conclusions as thee? :-P I agree BTW - people gotta think for themselves. Parents have to step up to the plate. Clearly if parents weren't buying padded bras for their preteen daughters, there wouldn't be a market for it. But parental choice is only a slice of the pie. Clothing industries and our weird pervert media is slowly creating an atmosphere of sluttiness surrounding children. I'm glad we can discuss this sort of stuff and raise "awareness of it" (if only that), because otherwise it's just gonna keep getting worse under our nose. I mean, look: In 2010, "Daughter's First Dildo" will have bumps on it which, when pressed, play "The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round". Sat, 3 May 2008 09:57:02 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5173 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5173 You're right Cramulus... I guess "home" wasn't the right word, more like a place I am comfortable knowing that I'm not dealing with cabbages. As for the padded bras and heart crotch thingies and blah blah blah... of course you're right that those things are not for little girls. Where do we draw the line in the Zen garden though? Who are we to draw that line? I have a suggestion here. How'z about the fn parents actually step in and be parents for once and not buy their kids stuff that they find offensive? I know, I know... FOX News sez we should just outlaw everything from lemonade to Tuesdays and the world will be set right, and who am I to argue with that stupidity? Well, I'm just a guy that's... well, let me choose the word carefully... umm... perturbed by the increasing lack of intelligence spanning the globe and the ease with which humanity allows itself to be stupid. My idea summed up: Personal responsibility vs. Hive Mind Sat, 3 May 2008 00:35:21 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5172 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5172 hold on there - this place isn't your "home" because some Discordians disagree with you about something? errrrrrrrrr ROFL -) on that note, we'll have to agree to disagree about clothing styles sexualizing children. I mean, they make thongs with a heart on the crotch for 7 year old girls. There's a padded bra for 9 year olds. There's a t-shirt marketed for 5-6 year olds which reads "So many boys, so little time." WHY? Kids are being taught to dress sexy before they even know what sexy means. Many girls will be treated like sex objects all of their lives, can't they at least get a break while they're still kids? Next year's "Daughter's First Dildo" will be 1 inch longer than this year's model. Fri, 2 May 2008 15:58:46 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5171 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5171 It's about time we got a lively debate going on these forums... toa: I hope you live in a cold climate so that any unfortunate children you may be related to can wear their clothing without getting heat stroke. And Miley Cyrus wasn't exploited... she did a photo shoot, was happy at the time and then when people like you, who are the majority, cried foul so did she, because she had to or people like you would embarass her further. You know... I came to Discordian philosophy because it is the one and only Theology I have found that says mankind is free to perceive and shape their world as they see fit. It isn't the clothes that make children sexualized (unless it's like a g-string or bondage gear but that's not what I'm talking about), it is the people who point their fingers and say it is sexualized that make it so... perception my friend... it's all perception. Now that I see that vexati0n and toa's comments here seem to be the norm of thought among the Discordian community... well, I guess I could take that on the upside and say that once again I find I am the unique one, or I could be disappointed that once again a place I thought was a home wasn't. Fri, 2 May 2008 13:16:09 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5170 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5170 I second comment 27. My brother just brought out my three-year-old niece's summer clothes. I found only one shirt that actually qualifies as a shirt. Fri, 2 May 2008 11:25:49 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5169 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5169 er? sup. i'm at the library. send check here: Emmanuel Teijeiro 6609 Oak Forest Ave. Apt#13 Tinley Park IL, 60477 Fri, 2 May 2008 11:24:30 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5168 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5168 can of worms. the sexualization of children in our so-called "culture" is now so pervasive that even wal-mart is aggressively marketing to girls as young as five years old, clothes that would bring the words "skank" and "slut" to your mind immediately if they were being worn by an adult woman. this business with Miley Cyrus is, in my mind, disgusting in that multitudes of up-tight fuckwits across America are crying foul and accusing Vanity Fair of immorality and inappropriate lechery while simultaneously filling their oversized shopping carts with streetwalker costumes for their kid to wear to kindergarten. this is only a way to allow millions of degenerate schmucks a way to sound like they have standards and values, decrying the decay of public morality personified by celebrities, while all the time contributing to that decay through their own incompetent sucking and clinging to the heels of every absentminded fashion and fad that comes blowing through their intellectually vacant lives. What pisses me off is not seeing the bare back of a fifteen-year-old girl, but the bare ignorance and hypocrisy of Middle America. Fri, 2 May 2008 11:12:13 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5167 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5167 I think the answers are quite clear: Annie Leibowitz is a Discordian and Miley got jaked. Fri, 2 May 2008 06:30:48 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5166 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5166 Also, specifically to Lebowski: You're not offended by the shameless exploitation of children? Really? Wouldn't Greyface be proud. Fri, 2 May 2008 05:44:36 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5165 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5165 There seems to be a misunderstanding here. Let me get right to it: Porn/erotica is for adult consumption -- the consumption of another person's apparent sexuality. With regards to the comments about children/teens having sexuality, I do not deny that or wish to restrict it. However, A CHILD'S SEXUALITY IS NOT FOR ADULT CONSUMPTION. As for the "How would you have them model the clothes?" how about they model the clothes, instead of modeling their sexuality as accented by the clothes? Fri, 2 May 2008 05:41:18 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5164 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=414#c5164 There's a little goddess in every girl? Well what the hell is she doing in there? Get her out! Quick, get me a pair of plyers and a flashlight. Fri, 2 May 2008 01:11:25 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5163 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5163 This is why Reverend Loveshade, minister for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), is obsessed with Miley Cyrus. He wants her to join his cult and be his fifth wife! Fri, 2 May 2008 01:10:20 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5162 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5162 Reverend Loveshade, from Texas, was recently taken into custody by the FBI after they found out that he had plans to hijack a plane in order to meet Miley Cyrus. (Hasn’t anyone ever told him that they are easier ways to meet her… like maybe buy a ticket?) When the police caught up with him, on the plane, they found duct tape, handcuffs, rope and other dangerous items. Reverend Loveshade told police that he planned on crash landing the plane, at one of Miley’s concerts in Lafayette Louisiana. Even if this crazy fan would have hijacked the plane, his plan would have never worked. He was flying on the wrong day. Duh! Fri, 2 May 2008 01:08:44 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5161 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=415#c5161 Yay! My accusation of offendedness hit home :) Tisk tisk... Wouldn't the Goddess be proud. I'm actually a bit speechless. All I can ask is... Really? ... kids in clothes... modelling... Lemme ask you this... How would you have them model the clothes? Would you like it better if they were in some sort of pod-people cocoon so that you'd only know they were kids by their small stature and then you could pretend they were maybe "little-people"? C'mon people... seriously, read the fn PD again and maybe take a sponge bath. Thu, 1 May 2008 23:46:46 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5160 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5160 I want my own mangina! Whatever the hell that is. But I'd love to get the funk. Thu, 1 May 2008 23:19:46 EST http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5159 http://www.23ae.com/index.asp?showo=1&post=416#c5159 http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f349/phoenixphire24/garfield04-29-08.jpg Thu, 1 May 2008 18:36:05 EST